Retrospective and interview
Conducted by Lanla Gist, masterÃ¢ÂÂs
candidate, Cal State L.A.
Setting the scene
Conversations with renowned poet, Jean Burden were a rarity that
unfolded in the comfort of her Altadena home just days following
her 93rd birthday on Saturday, September 8, 2007.
Servings of pastries and laughter went hand-in-hand as Burden
freely shared revelations about her long and fruitful life and
career as a respected writer and poetry editor.
Adorned in a floral gown with her gray hair swept up into a
ponytail, Burden contemplated old age. Ã¢ÂÂAm I 93? How did that
happen,Ã¢ÂÂ she said with laughter. Ã¢ÂÂYou get experience with age.
IÃ¢ÂÂm not sure you get wisdom. You get experience and you learn
how to live with it. It depends of course on what kind of life
you are living.Ã¢ÂÂ
Ã¢ÂÂI didnÃ¢ÂÂt want to be ShakespeareÃ¢ÂÂ
Ã¢ÂÂI was a writer and a poet,Ã¢ÂÂ said Burden. Ã¢ÂÂI donÃ¢ÂÂt write much
poetry lately, I must admit. IÃ¢ÂÂm just naturally a writer. IÃ¢ÂÂm
committed to it and I write notes to myself. Everything is
verbal. It isnÃ¢ÂÂt anything else. And my sense of humor is verbal.
I have a lot of humor. It helps. Every mood, every experience,
everything. If you get to be 93, your life has lengthened to all
kinds of things. I thought I was much more of a writer earlier.
What I mean by that is that I wrote not only poems and I had
quite a lot of success with it. I had every kind of writing,
except playwriting. I didnÃ¢ÂÂt do any plays.Ã¢ÂÂ
Ã¢ÂÂI loved to write and my experience with writing was translated
into words very early. I enjoyed that. It made it even better to
be able to go back and read what I had written even though it
wasnÃ¢ÂÂt Shakespeare. I didnÃ¢ÂÂt want to be Shakespeare. I wanted to
Bounty of poetry
In a career marked by accomplishment, BurdenÃ¢ÂÂs work has appeared
in The American Scholar, Beloit Poetry Journal, Saturday
Review, Virginia Quarterly and The New York Times.
Her first book of poetry entitled Ã¢ÂÂNaked as the GlassÃ¢ÂÂ was
published in 1963 and her second collection of poetry, Ã¢ÂÂTaking
Light from Each OtherÃ¢ÂÂ was published in 1992.
BurdenÃ¢ÂÂs work explores themes on human relationships, nature,
lost love, friendships and more. Her body of work including the
famous poem, Ã¢ÂÂLandscape for Stones,Ã¢ÂÂ has garnered praise from
noted poets including the late May Sarton, the late Howard
Nemerov, Paul Zimmer and Maxine Kumin. Critics have described
Burden as a writer who possesses high intelligence, candor, wit
and feminine sensibility without indulgence in sentimentality.
Burden reigned as poetry editor
for prestigious Yankee Magazine for 47 years. In a typical week
the publication received some 1000 manuscripts from poets
various geographical locations. Burden shared that routinely
perhaps one or two pieces might be remarkable while the majority
were mediocre or Ã¢ÂÂplain awful.Ã¢ÂÂ In a 1974 article in Yankee
Magazine entitled, Ã¢ÂÂPoetry is a Celebration of the Concrete,Ã¢ÂÂ
Burden commented that: Ã¢ÂÂMy excitement at plucking a fine poem
out of the welter of poor ones in the pile and discovering it is
from someone I have never heard of is one of the rewards of this
Humor, intuition, other ingredients
Her many years spent as a
writer and poetry editor helped shaped her staunch beliefs on
what makes poetry good. Ã¢ÂÂI think poetry should not always be
looked at as very, very serious. I think poetry can be humorous,
light and serious. Never flippant.Ã¢ÂÂ
Ã¢ÂÂI think you have
to have humor. Sometimes I write a poem and itÃ¢ÂÂs funny or about
a situation that is funny. I donÃ¢ÂÂt always write serious poems.Ã¢ÂÂ
Ã¢ÂÂI think you have to be intuitive to be a poet.Ã¢ÂÂ Burden once
voiced that good poetry is concrete in its use of metaphors and
symbols communicated with vivid images that are bold. The use of
nouns and active verbs that are precise are important. In a 1976
article in Yankee Magazine entitled, Ã¢ÂÂA Poem is not a Lullaby,Ã¢ÂÂ
Burden elaborated: Ã¢ÂÂPoetry is a happening. In other words, it is
active, moving, breathing. It goes somewhere and it takes us
BurdenÃ¢ÂÂs love of nature has long inspired her poetry. Ã¢ÂÂI think
every poet does that,Ã¢ÂÂ she shared. Ã¢ÂÂThatÃ¢ÂÂs the natural world.
ItÃ¢ÂÂs just part of what you are surrounded by and what you love.Ã¢ÂÂ
Earlier years at Friskies, in Chicago
passion for animals is just as strong. Burden spent years
working in public relations for Friskies. She is a strong
advocate of animal rights. She previously wrote a cat advice
column for WomanÃ¢ÂÂs Day Magazine and was responsible for an
anthology called Ã¢ÂÂA Celebration of Cats and the WomanÃ¢ÂÂs Day Book
of Hints for Cat Owners.Ã¢ÂÂ Burden has been the proud owner of
cats with lively names like Lucy, Linus and Beckett.
Ã¢ÂÂWhen I was a little girl I had animals,Ã¢ÂÂ she recalled. Ã¢ÂÂMy
mother let me have cats. No dogs. TheyÃ¢ÂÂre too noisy. I just
loved animals. I donÃ¢ÂÂt think thatÃ¢ÂÂs very unusual in a child.Ã¢ÂÂ
BurdenÃ¢ÂÂs began life in Waukegan, Illinois. Some of her fondest
memories of her youth in Chicago include her attending the
University of Chicago. Ã¢ÂÂThe professors were wonderful, people
who had experienced life in a different way completely than
yourself,Ã¢ÂÂ she said. Ã¢ÂÂThe University of Chicago is one of the
great universities in this country. I was very lucky to go
there. It was really one of the blessings of my life.Ã¢ÂÂ
Ã¢ÂÂI had some wonderful teachers at the University of Chicago. And
those who were not influential were soon discarded. Why should I
spend time with them?Ã¢ÂÂ She studied with famous writer, Thornton
Wilder who was one of the strong influences in her life. Ã¢ÂÂHe was
special. He was shy. Most teachers are not shy.Ã¢ÂÂ
What it takes to teach
Burden became a highly sought after teacher in her own right
after proving herself as a gifted poet and established editor.
She conducted popular poetry workshops out of her Altadena home.
Ã¢ÂÂI taught writing which was great fun. I was a pretty strict
teacher they said,Ã¢ÂÂ Burden admitted with a laugh. She stated
that she was, Ã¢ÂÂhonest, direct, constructive, but never unkind.Ã¢ÂÂ
Burden remains unclear about how the workshops in her home
started. Ã¢ÂÂI donÃ¢ÂÂt really know for sure. I presumed somebody
asked me some questions and I started to answer. And that was
it. I didnÃ¢ÂÂt plan to be a teacher. It just evolved and I think
it would have with anyone because you are asked questions and
you have to make explanations. Pretty soon youÃ¢ÂÂre talking. I
found that I was a good teacher. Surprise, surprise!Ã¢ÂÂ
described good teaching as: Ã¢ÂÂBeing honest without being hurtful.
Keeping up with other poets or writers. Keeping up with how
people explain themselves. ItÃ¢ÂÂs very interesting because
everybody does it differently.Ã¢ÂÂ
Ã¢ÂÂIÃ¢ÂÂm a pretty honest gal. I think I am. I donÃ¢ÂÂt know? I love
people. Not the sameÃ¢ÂÂ¦A or B or C. IÃ¢ÂÂm not that careful. I love
people. I learn a lot from people. I think IÃ¢ÂÂve learned
something from every student IÃ¢ÂÂve ever taught. And I like all of
people. Not all kinds I must say. They are certain types I donÃ¢ÂÂt
care for too much. But thatÃ¢ÂÂs easy to control.Ã¢ÂÂ
Quiet pride amid confinement
Ã¢ÂÂI think the best things that can happen to a person that is a
poet is not the things that you share with other people. They
are private things and after they have happened to you they were
sort of secretive. Then you say Ã¢ÂÂoh, thatÃ¢ÂÂs good.Ã¢ÂÂÃ¢ÂÂ
Nowadays Burden is largely confined to her Altadena, Calif.,
residence, which she made her home in 1946. She describes her
life as, Ã¢ÂÂquiet with very, very nice people who are my friends.Ã¢ÂÂ
She keeps abreast of worldly news by the way of the newspaper
that does not seem to stray far from her bedside.
is proud that she is the ongoing honoree of the Jean Burden
Poetry Series at California State University, Los Angeles, which
annually recognizes and celebrates the works of noteworthy
poets. Burden described the program stating that she had: Ã¢ÂÂNo
specific hopes. I think IÃ¢ÂÂm interested in watching it grow and
taking note of what happens to it, rather than try to guide it.
IÃ¢ÂÂm not interested in guiding it. If I were asked I would
probably give a suggestion here and there. I do better in
answering questions about it, but guiding it I question less.Ã¢ÂÂ
In her long life and career,
Burden commented about what she is most proud of. Ã¢ÂÂI think the
books IÃ¢ÂÂve published,Ã¢ÂÂ she shared. Ã¢ÂÂMost of all, I like people.
IÃ¢ÂÂve made some wonderful friends, not necessarily famous people.
IÃ¢ÂÂve known a lot of famous people. As IÃ¢ÂÂve gotten older IÃ¢ÂÂm more
quiet. I donÃ¢ÂÂt drive anymore. I used to drive everywhere. I mean
everywhere. At 93 you slow down, believe me.Ã¢ÂÂ
Above all else, Burden
holds steadfast to the fact that, Ã¢ÂÂI have never lost my sense of
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Postscript: Jean Burden died April 21,
2008, at her home in Altadena, Calif.
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